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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:06    Post subject: Twat. Reply with quote

http://www.nme.com/news/113482.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I think of saying is "Why"?

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P.S. I wish we had Cherry Coke here...mmmmmmm.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.colombiasolidarity.org.uk/cocacolacampaign.html
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 13:27    Post subject: dRd sezz: Reply with quote

Kinkster wrote:
http://www.nme.com/news/113482.htm


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 14:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Setareh Juventina wrote:
All I think of saying is "Why"?

Love & Peace

P.S. I wish we had Cherry Coke here...mmmmmmm.


Money I would have thought.

Anyway, what do they mean there hasn't been a great Coke advert song since "i'd like to buy the world a coke"! What about that soft rock monstrosity in the late 80's? "first love, first touch, oh what feeling is this?...." A poodle perm classic!!!

Finally, Shed 7 should have been pasted with jam and thrown on a wasps nest for recording any records, never mind one's for Dixons!!!

(No doubt Che will now pop up and tell us that Going For Gold is his number one song ever ever ever Wink )
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 15:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmmm, obviously i'm against evil multinationals and rock stars selling their soul to The Man but I love Coca-Cola and drink gallons of the stuff each week. If its a catchy tune I might just be on Jack White's side here.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 18:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm more of a pepsi man myself
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 19:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with you Kinkster... And here is my unions take on it...

Friday 22 July 2005 marks the second anniversary of the international boycott of Coca-Cola launched by SINALTRAINAL, the Colombian Food and Drink Workers Union, in response to the company's activities in Colombia.

Since 1994, eight Coca-Cola workers and SINALTRAINAL union leaders have been assassinated by paramilitaries, allegedly hired by Colombia's Coca-Cola management. Hundreds of other workers and union members have been imprisoned, tortured, threatened, disappeared or forced into exile.

Individuals and social and trade union organisations all around the world have pledged their support of the boycott - including, in the UK, UNISON, PCS and the Scottish Socialist Party. However Coca-Cola have refused to negotiate with SINALTRAINAL, and the repression against the workers has continued.

Since the boycott started on 22 July 2003:

Coca-Cola workers in Colombia had to go on hunger strike to fight mass sackings
union vice president Juan Carlos Galvis was injured in an assassination attempt
union leader Luis Eduardo Garcia's son escaped from a paramilitary kidnap
four members of union leader Efrain Guerrero's family were slaughtered in their beds by paramilitaries
Coca-Cola launched their seventh libel case against a SINALTRAINAL leader.
When the union launched the boycott campaign, they knew there would be a price to pay, and are relying on international support and solidarity to see them through to the end of their fight for justice. We have a moral obligation to support the workers of SINALTRAINAL.

Send protest messages on 22 July 2005

On 22 July please send messages of protest to Coca-Cola - see sample letter below.

Fax, email or telephone (or all 3) to make your feelings known.

E-mail Tim Wilkinson, Director of Public Affairs and Communications Coca-Cola GB.

Telephone: 0800 227711 or 0208 237 3000

Fax: 0208 237 3700

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Dear Coca- Cola,

The International Boycott of all your products has been going for two years, and people across the world now know about Coca-Cola's crimes in Colombia. However, I am very worried that instead of negotiating with SINALTRAINAL, Coca-Cola seems to have increased the repression against their Colombian workers.

I will continue to boycott all your products, until Coca Cola has:

mitigated the pain of the victims by making reparations for damage caused
publicly recognise that it benefited from crimes carried out by paramilitaries against Coke workers
committed itself to not making any new attacks on the workers, and hand over to justice those criminals who carried out attacks on their behalf
negotiated with the union, a code of conduct to safeguard workers' lives, in the presence of international observers.
Yours sincerely
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Dave w.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 20:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there an email address to send that protest message to?

i saw a mark thomas 'comedy' last year in which he set out the case against coke. their bottling plants in india are/were taking all the water in large areas, leaving farmers with dead crops, as well.

boycotts of companies that large seem a bit futile, but each individual has to do what they think is right. i hate the stuff anyway, so (like the sun) it's not a difficult product for me not to buy.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 09:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Flaming Lips have done a song for Coca-Cola as well. Obviously its easy for me to be preachy cos a multinational has never offered me a wheelbarrow full of cash to sing about their product but I always wonder why success people can be bothered advertising stuff when they're already rich.

Rio Ferdinand earns 100k a week and still takes time to to rake in a bit more cash by doing 'celebrity video calls' and the white stripes and the flaming lips need new accountants if they're still struggling to get by after their past couple of albums.

When I get rich I promise you all I will not sell out to the man but I might pay Wayne Coyne and Jack White to write a song about how great I am.

'The Fearless Freaks' documentary about the Flaming Lips is ace by the way.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 13:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd defend the Lips to a certain extent by pointing out that they re-invest loads of what they make into their music, ie the budgets for the live shows, videos, 5.1 mixes of everything, this crazy film they have just made.

And the insight into the lifestyles the band members lead in the Fearless Freaks documentary doesn't suggest anyone is cashing in on what they've achieved.

I wonder about the Coke thing - it seems Coke are marrying up high-end video companies with respected bands, and distributing the end product for free. Not sure I'd do it but I can see the argument.

Hey there was a documentary on about Coke the other evening. Did you see it? I actually think they're a bit fucked. I reckon in ten years no school will sell Coke, fast food joints will have to completely rebrand as in some way healthy (like McDonalds are supposedly doing), and there was something on the news this morning where an independent shop owner had taken Coke on in the courts and won a case to override the exclusivity they inisist upon in some stores.

Plus Coke is shit, it's like a chemistry experiment in a can. Same goes for Pepsi and the rest. Give me a pint of mild instead any day.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well as much as I support the Killer Coke campaign, and as much as I hate talented people lending their images and credibility. cheapening themselves in the process. to corporate ad campaigns, After seeing the white stripes this week there is no way i can call Jack White a twat, everybody makes mistakes but not everybody rocks like he can, and if the song turns out to be good wil the fact that its been commisioned cancel that out.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 22:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see Sparky's point, from the Fearless Freaks documentary it didn't look like the Flaming Lips were living MC Hammer-esque lives of excess.

Its just irritating but seemingly inevitable that music is merely seen as a means of selling other stuff rather than an end in itself. In Word magazine this month there's a 4 page article where journalist's pick their favourite tunes which is just a paid for advert for some download service and Q this month has a huge article on boxsets which is just an advert for HMV. I also bought NME for the first time in months last week and its impossible to get through a paragraph without being offered the chance to buy a ringtone.

I know music magazines have always been about selling albums/singles/t-shirts/tickets but they're used to be at least a facade of journalistic integrity. And I also know that some of the best music writing is on website rather than in print but thats no use to me when I'm bored on the train on the way to work.

Not a very lucid or fluid argument there but thank your for listening.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 14:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, they do it because money is addictive, the more you have the more you want...

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