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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 21:36    Post subject: earth Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 17:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers- Just seen this and thought it worthy of response - if nothing else illustrates the fcuked up world in which we live.

Woke me up once more to my petty complaints.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 17:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's already too late to save the earth. We've passed all sorts of tipping points in terms of the greenhouse effect, and the thing is already in motion. we shall reap what we have sown and it shall not be pretty. The only light at the end of the tunnel is paradoxically peak oil, that will force us to consider alternatives..but what it all boils down to is the fact that the earth cannot sustain 6+ billion humans, it's borrowed time we are on, we've borrowed from the future but instead of being able to pay it back we've burned it all away. It's funny, The Independent had terrifying stuff on its front page today about the Arctic ice sheet melting thirty times faster than previously expected. Now that's the kind of thing that should arrest anybody in a state of extreme terror at the prospect of what is now unfolding, but how many people do you think would have actually paid any attention to that? People who wouldn't normally buy the guardian or the independent? Now, if it has screamed.. PAEDOS SPOTTED ON THE LOOSE IN SCUNTHORPE , it would have flownoff the shelves. We are blind to the single most important issue of the time. and the funniest thing about it is, how so many right wing media commentators view concern about the environment as somehow a left wing issue????? It's everybodies issue, and is way above politics at this stage. Surely neither capitalism or socialism cannot exist in a global-warmed wasteland?? But like I said, it is already too late.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 17:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

CiaranMac wrote:
I think it's already too late to save the earth. We've passed all sorts of tipping points in terms of the greenhouse effect, and the thing is already in motion. we shall reap what we have sown and it shall not be pretty. The only light at the end of the tunnel is paradoxically peak oil, that will force us to consider alternatives..but what it all boils down to is the fact that the earth cannot sustain 6+ billion humans, it's borrowed time we are on, we've borrowed from the future but instead of being able to pay it back we've burned it all away. It's funny, The Independent had terrifying stuff on its front page today about the Arctic ice sheet melting thirty times faster than previously expected. Now that's the kind of thing that should arrest anybody in a state of extreme terror at the prospect of what is now unfolding, but how many people do you think would have actually paid any attention to that? People who wouldn't normally buy the guardian or the independent? Now, if it has screamed.. PAEDOS SPOTTED ON THE LOOSE IN SCUNTHORPE , it would have flownoff the shelves. We are blind to the single most important issue of the time. and the funniest thing about it is, how so many right wing media commentators view concern about the environment as somehow a left wing issue????? It's everybodies issue, and is way above politics at this stage. Surely neither capitalism or socialism cannot exist in a global-warmed wasteland?? But like I said, it is already too late.


i'm in complete agreement with this - i find it bizarre that everyone finds it so easy to be in denial about what's happening. plus we keep bombing the planet from the sky, that can't be good for it.

i found it amusing that liverpool signed a 999 year lease for their new ground - it's odd to think that far ahead, but i don't think there's any chance that they'll be needing to renew that. i just wonder at what point during that lease we will have destroyed everything?

i give it around 500 years.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 21:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been saying to anyone that'll listen that I think we'll see World War III within my own lifetime. If it's not that, it's the lack of land that's going to wipe half of us out.

Bring it on I say. The world will ultimately be better off in the long run.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 21:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

CiaranMac wrote:
what it all boils down to is the fact that the earth cannot sustain 6+ billion humans

i'm sure that's not true. if technology improves the potential of solar power must be almost limitless. and there are enough natural resources to sustain that many lives, if the resources are better distributed.

what's not sustainable is the western way of life, where resources can be used of and disposed of with no regard for the future, and the trend of this way of life spreading elsewhere as countries develop.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 21:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's really beautifully produced and thought provoking.
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