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| Adults who read it are a bit, you know, slow |
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CiaranMac
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What's the story with all the adults who read these books, am I missing something?
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Kris
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But you know, I love Memory Sorrow And Thorne by Tad Williams so what would I know?
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CiaranMac
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His Dark Materials
by Philip Pullman
A trilogy of kids books, that are so rich in symbolism and philosophy, that they could be the best British books of the last ten years. I just have a feeling that the Harry Potter stuff is trite, cliched and gimmicky in comparison, yet they are devoured by loads of people I know, like they were the best thing since sliced bread.
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Bev
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I admit it, i've read the 1st one - it is a well written kid's book - nothing more. Anything that encourages the kids to read is a good thing in my opinion.
Anything that increases the amount of hype & marketing in the world is a bad thing though.
The people who buy Harry P now are the same people who bought No Logo in 1998, The Beach In 1996, Trainspotting on 1994... They bought 'drum n bass' cds in 1995 and 'chill out' cds in 2000...
And then they tell you that
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know what the best book ever is.
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My little lad (who's just turned 5) thinks Harry Potter's excellent. He likes the films, but prefers it as a bed time story. However he's just watched the Star Wars trilogy (the old ones and not in one go either) and can now recite the whole plot, knows the entire script to The Jungle Book and can recognise about 75% of the characters in a pack of Simpsons Top Trumps (for they are back, though they'll never top Argentina 78 - not your favourite military junta facts, but a collection of footballers from such top footballing nations as Peru, Sweden and Iran).
Having said all that he also loves Mr Men books...he is still a child after all.
As for me the books are good old-fashioned no-brain, eye candy and no worse for that. Sometimes you don't want to concentrate too hard. |
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I'll admit that the marketing for Harry Potter has become ridiculous, and that the films are fairly sub-standard pieces of entertainment.
I, however, never bought No Logo in 1998, The Beach in 1996, Trainspotting in 1994, drum n bass cds in 1995 or chill out cds in 2000, but have bought and read the Harry Potter books. I believe that your comments are baseless, and ill-conceived along the lines of "anything that sells so well must be bad" (in the same why that Jack White thinks that "anything that is so post-60s must be bad"). Your comments are, frankly, sub-standard for the average quality of replies on this message board. I recommend that all of you read the Harry Potter books so that you have, at least, a rough understanding of what you're talking about. |
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CiaranMac
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Setareh Juventina
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 08:40 Post subject: |
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(for they are back, though they'll never top Argentina 78 - not your favourite military junta facts, but a collection of footballers from such top footballing nations as Peru, Sweden and Iran).
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Coolness, my dad played in the 78 world cup, for Iran, I wonder if he's a toy...L&P
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Bev
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 17:23 Post subject: |
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I I believe that your comments are baseless, and ill-conceived along the lines of "anything that sells so well must be bad" (in the same why that Jack White thinks that "anything that is so post-60s must be bad"). Your comments are, frankly, sub-standard for the average quality of replies on this message board. I recommend that all of you read the Harry Potter books so that you have, at least, a rough understanding of what you're talking about. |
I have read one.
I never said that anything that sells is rubbish. I said that the fact that if anything sells/is hyped has
no correlation
to their quality or lack thereof.
And that certain people, who do exist, merely buy what is hyped rather than finding things out for themselves, supporting struggling authors/bands etc. And I beleive that this is bad for culture overall. There are more good books/films/bands etc than what the Sunday Supplements tell you about...
As for your rather more personal insults, I really can't be bothered to respond.
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Tommy Tynans Lovechild
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| Coolness, my dad played in the 78 world cup, for Iran |
So Seterah can you reveal his name?? A78 was the first World Cup I can remember - Iran were ace for (i) drawing with Scotland and (ii) having I R A N spelt in big fuck off letters across their shirts. Only Tunisia and Holland matched them for coolness. Oh and the Argentinian fans too, top notch confetti throwing.
I've never read Harry Potter and never will do 'cos it just don't appeal to me. I did vote for Burn 'em just for the hell of it. Naturally i'm sure their good for kids n adults alike and i've yet to meet anyone who's read and not liked 'em (though my in laws assure me that they are just a pretty average read).
FWIW I found Trainspotting hilarious (though enjoyed the film more 'cos it was easier to follow), No Logo worthy and The Beach great for about 5 chapters then pretty shite have ago at writing a Hollywood blockbuster for the rest of it.
Fave Irvine Welch book though has to be Marabou Stork Nightmares, superbly written with one of the greatest endings ever. Anyone read Porno yet?
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Setareh Juventina
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My father's name is Hassan Nayebagha (not my surname btw, anyone thinking of frauds with my surname, don't bother) or might have been spelled miscorrectly Nayeb-agha.
He played against Holland and half of the Scotland game. Got injured during Scotland and that was the end of his career. Tough Scots. Apparently he was in French footie magazine Onze once, which if you know, is a source of pride. He was also in a Swedish newspaper and now I live in Sweden...woohoo.
I've met one person who read Harry Potter and didn't like it, she's 16 and one person who thought it was okay but not special at all.
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All the adults who dressed up as witches and wizards and hung with the kids while waiting for the harry potter book to come out are a bit fuckin special at best and at worst downright sinister.
Apparently If you go to the official harry potter webboard there's a shocking amount of people in their 20's and 30's rabbiting on and mixing it up with kids. If you ask me, the whole thing is symptomatic of the age we live in. People are becoming gormlessly obsessed with childhood nostalgia and are afraid to grow up. The amount of people in their early 20's I know who already think they're old. What the fuck is going to happen next? Adult nappies? Newsnight gets replaced by bagpuss or someother nostalgia fest that was shite the first time round and is even shiter now? Preschooldisco.com? Its fucked up.
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in the absence of any famous family footballers, my sole claim to fame is that i once pissed on irvine welsh's leg in a soho boozer. he didn't seem to mind and, by the look of him, had about 27 different kinds of piss on him already. like a walking bowl of bar snack peanuts.
best book i read as a kid was 'the dark is rising' sequence by susan cooper. genuinely spooky and namechecked recently by mercury rev, i believe. |
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Bev
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Okay, best kids books - to quote my old teachers: "discuss". My starters for 10:
The Twits
The Iron Man
The Hobitt
And does anyone remember some sci-fi teenagery books about a 'space ranger' (or suchlike) with a metal bones inside and he was the last of his kind and.... dunno, but they were ace!
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Setareh Juventina
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The amount of people in their early 20's I know who already think they're old. What the fuck is going to happen next? Adult nappies? ...Its fucked up.
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I know, it's really pathetic. A few years ago I knew a 23 yearold who was worried about her 'wrinkles'. My friends think it's a shame they've already turned 20...I don't know what to say or think. L&P
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